Photo Gallery comparison

Why do you say the performance of 4images is low? I've recently discovered it and I've found it to be great--I'm not disputing you, maybe it is, I'd just like more information so I don't implement it and find it won't work out.

As a side note, I'm also a very happy Gallery user and I have no intentions of ditching it for 4images--they are separate projects with separate needs. :cool:

I've only been searching for an online gallery for the last month or so.
I've come across lots of galleries, <!-- BBCode Start --><A HREF="http://www.subblue.com/gallery/" TARGET="_blank">subMedia</A><!-- BBCode End --> looks great but it's not available, <!-- BBCode Start --><A HREF="http://www.4homepages.de" TARGET="_blank">4images</A><!-- BBCode End --> is pretty good but you can only upload 1 photo at a time through the web interface.
I'm waiting for Gallery 2, from what has been said it's going to hopefully be a killer gallery. Configurability, modularity - I can't wait. Bharat seems to be making a good effort to produce good, lean, clean, modular code.

I had some spare time last night and i installed all these galleries and tested them.

Like anything they all have their good points and their bad points. I'd say my favourite was 4images. There is a plugin that allows you to batch import files. the link is posted in the 4images forum.

For now I'll stick with gallery. I've been using it since version 1.0 was in beta, and i figure why change.

Thanks for the links though hk. I was not aware of any of those galleries

bharat, and that is exactly the reason we are all waiting with baited breath for your Gallery 2. We know it's worth waiting for! :smile:

Yep, G2 will (eventually) provide all that functionality.

Ratings, eCard, Top Images, New Images, download-photo-as-zip, download-album-as-zip will be available as module plugins (same as photo printing, slideshow, comments and other bolt-on features).

Backup databases on the fly will be an administrative plugin. This should be pretty easy also.

I'm not sure what "template manager" is, though. Can you elaborate?

Hi,

Thanks for your message and you are so open minded (and also confident 8>) to compare your package with others. I am really want to use Gallery v2 later in my photo gallery. I was a Gallery user before but I face to performance problem when I loads more than 20000 photos. I think it is the problem due to file based database to keep track of all details.

Hope to see the launch of Gallery 2 soon.

Tony
http://www.tonyleung.com

hk,

Geesh, your site loads very very SLOW, maybe it becuase your host is a slow .... Is it running off a dedicated server?

No, my host is not very slow. The discussion forum run on the same machine is really fast. You may try it http://www2.tonyleung.com/phpbb/

I think the problem is due to the 4images package but the reason is not yet identified.

I think that G2 can do everything PhotoPost can do, and more. I'm not yet sure if it makes sense to have a forum mod for Gallery, or to make Gallery a mod of a specific forum. But either way, it'll be possible to integrate the two tightly. However, this probably won't happen until G2.1

this isn't true either.

You can ftp as many photos as you want, then tell 4images to "find new photos", and it does. I've uploaded over 100 at once.

I love 4images, but I've recently changed to Gallery solely because of the iPhoto plugin. Multiple-image uploads, one click

/tommy

hk_traveller, thanks for the great photo service comparison. I've got that bookmarked and will use it as an indicator of what features we should put into G2.

Fotop.net is also pretty cool. I like to see how people have embedded Gallery into their websites and the ways that they have customized it to make it effective. That's also bookmarked now.

G2 is coming along nicely. You should download and install a copy of it and play with it to get an idea of how it works and what you can do with it! I am still not projecting a release date, but you can get an idea of how far along it is for yourself by using it. Now that the migration code is at least semi-functional, it's easy to populate your G2 with a couple of thousand images from your G1 and see how it works.

why has no1 mentioned http://coppermine.sourceforge.net ?
i guess it's currently the number 1 challenger of gallery.

biggest plus for a lot of people is: coppermine doesn't require Safe_Mode Off. And then again, it's open source too, meta data in a DB, getting more and more features.

if i didn't knew G2's wonderful framework and that it's coming next year, i'd probably have moved to coppermine.

http://singapore.sf.net/

seems to be a very nice lightweight gallery. doesn't need db or files to store information. but it knows a mode in which it uses files to store information and a db layer is planned.

Is PhotoIndex only a phpnuke module? Or can it be standalone?

The comparison on the coppermine site doesn't include the full Gallery feature set (it's off of Gallery 1.4) so there are a few features missing:

* Custom fields
* Integration with Mambo, Geeklog, Xoops
* Gallery Remote
* Printing (Shutterfly, Fotokasten, EZPrints, PhotoAccess)
* Localization
* Full screen slideshow
* RSS feed

I'm sure that it's a little bit out of date and that all the other competitors also have new features that aren't on the list. But it's a good starting point for the comparison!

http://coppermine.sf.net

d3vlabs, why it wasn't mentioned?
this forum topic is older than coppermine, it's as simple as that

and if you'd have read page 2 of the thread, you could have noticed that coppermine was mentioned, and linked to. with a "hyperlink". :lol:
j/k

bharat answers pms, and you can reach him in irc #gallery.

Well Obviously hk_traveller giving a good advertising for Gallery. His remarks and opinions are not objective and based on global assumptions. I work with adobe photoshop and Paintshoppro. I got know 1000 of people in painting and Desktop publishing who upload download tons picture in a day. Their first choice is 4images beside coppermine and they never got any problem with 4images performance. I am not saying Gallery or other products are bad i am just critisizing they way he compare them.

Every Gallery has its advanatges and disadvantages under different user. 4images is one of best Gallery i have ever expierenced beside Coppermine. There is no Gallery is extremly so popular then 4images under PaintShopPro and adopbe Photoshop. None of a Gallery offers so much options for user and for admin.

I might sound harsh but i don't like when someone statments are just for advertising for his own purposes and far away from truth. Here are some links that might open hk_traveller eyes to see thing objectivly. from these sites you can find out the links to other sites using 4images.

1. http://silentinsanity.eilens.com/

2. http://m0odswings.com/gallery/

3. http://breatheasigh.m0odswings.com/avies/

4. http://www.penha.net/shop/

5. http://www.bellesartisticrealm.com/4images/index.php

6. http://aval0n.net/shop/

and tons of other sites those no need any comments. Thank you

Hi,

Just found another photo gallery call yappa-ng , haven try it yet , from overview , look through demo and feature. I feel is a not bad kind of photo album. And the important is FREE to use.

Just wondering anyone use it before ? please give some comment about it.

http://www.zirkon.at/zirkon/scripts/yappa-ng/yappa-ng_themes_eng.html

please check it out.

if you're not using Gallery 2 - you're missing out ALOT. no OSS gallery script comes close. no, not one.

I'am the author of a new gallery system called Clepsydra http://clepsydra.javaforge.com/.

The biggest difference is that everything is stored in database (even the pictures content),
and it let's you describe your pictures and then search for them (all the pictures of john or tagged with a keyword) or view a map of your pictures. It's less mature than Gallery and has probably far less features but i think it's just a different way. It's more about defining
your pictures (takes probaby more time than gallery), than creating pictures albums.

I don't really have any feedback about it so if you have some time to tell me what you think about it, or even try it i will be really happy.

Do you know if there are some directories of photo gallery software i can register my project to to ge more visibility ?

Here is a copy of the features :

# Create document bases that will contains documents and all related entities and are isolated from each other

# Import documents one at a time, or by uploading a zip file containing documents.

# Describe your documents by name, description (rich text), significance, keywords, event, location, authors, people (that are appearing on a picture for example), date.

# Automatic detection of mime type to guess if it's a photo or a video document for example

# For photos thumbnail creation, rotation and automatic date detection for pictures that contains EXIF data

# Creation of locations, events, persons and arbitrary keywords that will be assigned to documents

# Search of documents using all the defined attributes, for example all picture of renée and that were taken in the caucasian area, searches can be saved to create "virtual collections" of pictures. That is to say you can save a search for all the pictures of a new family baby and then have a dynamic collection of this pictures that will reflect the pictures of that baby after you saved your search, then you can see a slide show of this pictures for example.

# User management and permissions, users are people that can connect to the application, they can have different permissions on each document base : viewer, contributor, administrator, and they can choose the language they want the application to be localized in.

# Configurable e-mail notification support to be warned when new pictures are added to a base, and when an error occurs

# E-mail support to send documents by this media

# Printing support to send pictures to printing services (really early stage for that feature, not usable yet)

# Map support to see your documents on a map, by defining a tree of geolocalized locations, so you can see a satellite map of the locations from one of your trip and the pictures located there

# Slide show

# Localization is supported (for now french, english and partially italian)

# From a technical point of view clepsydra is following the MVC principles, so one can use the data API without the web interface, to automate tasks, or build a new user interface on top of the api. Unit tests are used to test the API so they're examples of how to use it. For now just one content transformer (image rotation) is implemented, but it's a matter of implementing an interface to add a new one.

# Everything is stored in the database even the content of the documents so it's pretty simple to save and restore an instance of the application, and data integrity can be better checked.

Thanks.

This was a pretty discussion.

to hk_traveller : there are many projects like gallery. different people=different needs. I tested all the galleries you wrote about, I tested also other galleries and gallery2 was my winner. The reason for me is speed and many modules and options. You probably tested the speed of some other projects with a few galleries. I have galleries with more than 2 milions of objects (images,photos,documents,sounds,..). The speed is great. The traffic is also great. Any other project couldn`t deal with this large different objects... Gallery2 is very universal. I personally use it also for my family photos (about 5000 photos, some videos from camera).

fryfrog,

You're right, when i started to develop the map support for clepsydra there was no module for that on gallery no there is one.
I decided to not join an existing project (even a great one like gallery) because i wanted an application that let's me describe my pictures and then be able to see them. But the more important is the definition. That is to say in clepsydra when you define a location with geographic coordinates and you associate pictures to it, then if you change the coordinates all your pictures move with it, it's not tag with same coordinates in each picture. I think clepsydra is not exactly on the same segment has gallery (even if it's not so far). And for printing support (not complete in clepsydra) i took the idea from gallery. The invitation
to join the gallery team is nice but i'am not a php developer and i still believe it's not exactly the same way, and that some day i'll have two or three users of clepsydra and maybe even a co-developer.

It's ok, it's a design choice, i think you're arguments are pretty good, i hesitated a lot for this choice, but when i saw that it can work, and that it allowed me to be more homogeneous regarding the data access i choose the full database method, but it's an endless debate. But it's true that for tera bytes of pictures it's probably not the good way to go, but it's probably not the good application neither.

I have no demo, but it's a matter of minutes to install the application for a test (no database needed, just java and the application). You can see instructions at http://clepsydra.javaforge.com/documentation/installing.html.
The freshmeat page is at http://freshmeat.net/projects/clepsydra/

edit by valiant: added quote tags around quoted text. it was pretty confusing without.