problem step 2 installing G2 on one.com webspace

maartenva

Joined: 2009-09-09
Posts: 4

Posted: Wed, 2009-09-09 10:57

Hi

I've got some problems when I'm trying to install G2 on my webspace. I can't get to step 3 because it throws me some warnings.
Can you help me.

Warning: putenv() [function.putenv]: Safe Mode warning: Cannot set environment variable 'LANG' - it's not in the allowed list in /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/modules/core/classes/GalleryTranslator.class on line 306

Warning: putenv() [function.putenv]: Safe Mode warning: Cannot set environment variable 'LANGUAGE' - it's not in the allowed list in /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/modules/core/classes/GalleryTranslator.class on line 307

Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cookie - headers already sent by (output started at /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/modules/core/classes/GalleryTranslator.class:306) in /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/lib/support/GallerySetupUtilities.class on line 76

Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cache limiter - headers already sent (output started at /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/modules/core/classes/GalleryTranslator.class:306) in /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/lib/support/GallerySetupUtilities.class on line 76

Thanks

Gallery version (not just "2"): 2.3
Browser (e.g. Firefox 2.0): firefox 3.5 and IE 8

floridave

Joined: 2003-12-22
Posts: 22892

Posted: Wed, 2009-09-09 13:40

Quote:

Safe Mode warning:

FAQ: Does G2 work with Safe Mode PHP?

Dave
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maartenva

Joined: 2009-09-09
Posts: 4

Posted: Wed, 2009-09-09 13:49

floridave wrote:

Quote:

Safe Mode warning:

FAQ: Does G2 work with Safe Mode PHP?

Dave
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Ok that's the problem with the first 2 warnings. Will it solve the last 2 also?
I'll have to contact my webprovider for this, I can't change anything myself.

Thanks

nivekiam

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Posts: 16503

Posted: Wed, 2009-09-09 16:33

Possibly, you need to get safe_mode turned off first.
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Alpha93

Joined: 2009-09-15
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Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 10:57

Hello, i have the same problem to on one.com, have you figure out how to solve this problem?

maartenva

Joined: 2009-09-09
Posts: 4

Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 11:12

Alpha93 wrote:

Hello, i have the same problem to on one.com, have you figure out how to solve this problem?

didn't have the time yet. I hope to get it done soon.

Alpha93

Joined: 2009-09-15
Posts: 5

Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 11:59

Ok give me a note when you have find out a solution with one.com I think it will not help if i take a contact with them to about this.

floridave

Joined: 2003-12-22
Posts: 22892

Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 14:37

Just ask them to disable safe_mode.

Dave
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Alpha93

Joined: 2009-09-15
Posts: 5

Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 19:01

Hello every one. I did today ask one.com to turn off safemode. And this did i get as answere.

Quote:

not possible , it is ON and cannot be turned off for security reasons

Am not shure if this is true that safemode help the security level on php server. Or is it? And why are this gallery that are so good codet that way?

Is there any way to tweak the code so we don't have to turn of the safemode on phpserver?

nivekiam

Joined: 2002-12-10
Posts: 16503

Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 19:08

I'm going to be short and to the point here. They are clueless and you need to find a new host.

There is a huge discussion about safe_mode and how it's just a really bad idea, poorly implemented. If they offer any other languages on their server like Perl, you can instantly bypass EVERYTHING safe_mode tries to disable.

PHP 6.x, safe_mode is removed

PHP 5.3 safe_mode is depreciated

There are correct ways to secure a server and incorrect ways, and safe_mode is the incorrect way.
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floridave

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Posted: Wed, 2009-09-16 02:41

Quote:

not possible , it is ON and cannot be turned off for security reasons

From: http://gallery.menalto.com/node/3017

bharat wrote:

While I was there, I wound up sitting at a table with Rasmus Lerdorf, the guy who founded PHP. He's a Gallery user so while we talked about various things, we eventually got around to talking about safe mode, since it's one of the biggest thorns in the side of applications like Gallery. About safe mode Rasmus says "the biggest problem with safe mode is that people use it." And he's right. Safe mode is fundamentally flawed because it's providing security at the application level, instead of at the operating system level.

Dave

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nivekiam

Joined: 2002-12-10
Posts: 16503

Posted: Wed, 2009-09-16 04:05

Yep, properly setting up permissions is the only real way to secure a system. On a system that has PHP with safe_mode and ANY other script language I can bypass ALL of PHP "secure" settings. Move to a host who has a clue. They're going to be up a creek when PHP 6.0 comes out and it doesn't have safe_mode at all. They won't have a clue what to do.
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Alpha93

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Posted: Wed, 2009-09-16 07:13

Ok. I see the problem with security policy that host have. But i allsow did find one guy have patchet G2.3 so it work with one.com host.

nivekiam

Joined: 2002-12-10
Posts: 16503

Posted: Wed, 2009-09-16 13:32

Don't come here looking for help of any sort with that hacked version of Gallery

I'll ask for you phpinfo, see that safe_mode is on and stop with asking to either have safe_mode turned off or finding a new host I'll occasionally help out with some unsupported configurations but safe_mode is strictly not one of them.
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floridave

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Posted: Wed, 2009-09-16 13:43

All question have been asked and answered about safe_mode in this thread:
http://gallery.menalto.com/node/3017
Please read it all.

Safe_mode: you need it turned off, case closed.

Dave
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maartenva

Joined: 2009-09-09
Posts: 4

Posted: Fri, 2009-09-18 14:58

I've just spoken with one of support and they tell me that menalto isn't supported by them and that they don't turn of the safe mode.
No luck

So I guess that I'm looking for an other galllery.

alecmyers

Joined: 2006-08-01
Posts: 4338

Posted: Fri, 2009-09-18 16:16

You'd be about a zillion times better off looking for another host, instead.

nivekiam

Joined: 2002-12-10
Posts: 16503

Posted: Fri, 2009-09-18 16:29

I agree 100%. Someone who's blind and won't re-evaluate the use of safe_mode doesn't know what they are doing.

Good luck with the future problems you will undoubtedly have there.
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Alpha93

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Posted: Fri, 2009-09-18 17:34

Thank you for the help.

Yes and yes there are alot web host who use safe_mode. But anyway the patched version of gallery2 i use, work perfectly and i will NOT ask your guys for help if it don't work anymore ;-)

Everything will maybe be better when new version of php comes. ;)

maartenva Joined: 2009-09-09 Posts: 4	Posted: Wed, 2009-09-09 10:57
	Hi I've got some problems when I'm trying to install G2 on my webspace. I can't get to step 3 because it throws me some warnings. Can you help me. Warning: putenv() [function.putenv]: Safe Mode warning: Cannot set environment variable 'LANG' - it's not in the allowed list in /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/modules/core/classes/GalleryTranslator.class on line 306 Warning: putenv() [function.putenv]: Safe Mode warning: Cannot set environment variable 'LANGUAGE' - it's not in the allowed list in /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/modules/core/classes/GalleryTranslator.class on line 307 Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cookie - headers already sent by (output started at /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/modules/core/classes/GalleryTranslator.class:306) in /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/lib/support/GallerySetupUtilities.class on line 76 Warning: session_start() [function.session-start]: Cannot send session cache limiter - headers already sent (output started at /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/modules/core/classes/GalleryTranslator.class:306) in /customers/maartenva.be/maartenva.be/httpd.www/drupal/modules/gallery/gallery2/lib/support/GallerySetupUtilities.class on line 76 Thanks Gallery version (not just "2"): 2.3 Browser (e.g. Firefox 2.0): firefox 3.5 and IE 8
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floridave Joined: 2003-12-22 Posts: 22892	Posted: Wed, 2009-09-09 13:40
	Quote: Safe Mode warning: FAQ: Does G2 work with Safe Mode PHP? Dave _____________________________________________ Blog & G2 \|\| floridave - Gallery Team

maartenva Joined: 2009-09-09 Posts: 4	Posted: Wed, 2009-09-09 13:49
	floridave wrote: Quote: Safe Mode warning: FAQ: Does G2 work with Safe Mode PHP? Dave _____________________________________________ Blog & G2 \|\| floridave - Gallery Team Ok that's the problem with the first 2 warnings. Will it solve the last 2 also? I'll have to contact my webprovider for this, I can't change anything myself. Thanks

nivekiam Joined: 2002-12-10 Posts: 16503	Posted: Wed, 2009-09-09 16:33
	Possibly, you need to get safe_mode turned off first. ____________________________________________ Like Gallery? Like the support? Donate now!!! See G2 live here

Alpha93 Joined: 2009-09-15 Posts: 5	Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 10:57
	Hello, i have the same problem to on one.com, have you figure out how to solve this problem?

maartenva Joined: 2009-09-09 Posts: 4	Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 11:12
	Alpha93 wrote: Hello, i have the same problem to on one.com, have you figure out how to solve this problem? didn't have the time yet. I hope to get it done soon.

Alpha93 Joined: 2009-09-15 Posts: 5	Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 11:59
	Ok give me a note when you have find out a solution with one.com I think it will not help if i take a contact with them to about this.

floridave Joined: 2003-12-22 Posts: 22892	Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 14:37
	Just ask them to disable safe_mode. Dave _____________________________________________ Blog & G2 \|\| floridave - Gallery Team

Alpha93 Joined: 2009-09-15 Posts: 5	Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 19:01
	Hello every one. I did today ask one.com to turn off safemode. And this did i get as answere. Quote: not possible , it is ON and cannot be turned off for security reasons Am not shure if this is true that safemode help the security level on php server. Or is it? And why are this gallery that are so good codet that way? Is there any way to tweak the code so we don't have to turn of the safemode on phpserver?

nivekiam Joined: 2002-12-10 Posts: 16503	Posted: Tue, 2009-09-15 19:08
	I'm going to be short and to the point here. They are clueless and you need to find a new host. There is a huge discussion about safe_mode and how it's just a really bad idea, poorly implemented. If they offer any other languages on their server like Perl, you can instantly bypass EVERYTHING safe_mode tries to disable. PHP 6.x, safe_mode is removed PHP 5.3 safe_mode is depreciated There are correct ways to secure a server and incorrect ways, and safe_mode is the incorrect way. ____________________________________________ Like Gallery? Like the support? Donate now!!! See G2 live here

floridave Joined: 2003-12-22 Posts: 22892	Posted: Wed, 2009-09-16 02:41
	Quote: not possible , it is ON and cannot be turned off for security reasons From: http://gallery.menalto.com/node/3017 bharat wrote: While I was there, I wound up sitting at a table with Rasmus Lerdorf, the guy who founded PHP. He's a Gallery user so while we talked about various things, we eventually got around to talking about safe mode, since it's one of the biggest thorns in the side of applications like Gallery. About safe mode Rasmus says "the biggest problem with safe mode is that people use it." And he's right. Safe mode is fundamentally flawed because it's providing security at the application level, instead of at the operating system level. Dave _____________________________________________ Blog & G2 \|\| floridave - Gallery Team

nivekiam Joined: 2002-12-10 Posts: 16503	Posted: Wed, 2009-09-16 04:05
	Yep, properly setting up permissions is the only real way to secure a system. On a system that has PHP with safe_mode and ANY other script language I can bypass ALL of PHP "secure" settings. Move to a host who has a clue. They're going to be up a creek when PHP 6.0 comes out and it doesn't have safe_mode at all. They won't have a clue what to do. ____________________________________________ Like Gallery? Like the support? Donate now!!! See G2 live here

Alpha93 Joined: 2009-09-15 Posts: 5	Posted: Wed, 2009-09-16 07:13
	Ok. I see the problem with security policy that host have. But i allsow did find one guy have patchet G2.3 so it work with one.com host.

nivekiam Joined: 2002-12-10 Posts: 16503	Posted: Wed, 2009-09-16 13:32
	Don't come here looking for help of any sort with that hacked version of Gallery I'll ask for you phpinfo, see that safe_mode is on and stop with asking to either have safe_mode turned off or finding a new host I'll occasionally help out with some unsupported configurations but safe_mode is strictly not one of them. ____________________________________________ Like Gallery? Like the support? Donate now!!! See G2 live here

floridave Joined: 2003-12-22 Posts: 22892	Posted: Wed, 2009-09-16 13:43
	All question have been asked and answered about safe_mode in this thread: http://gallery.menalto.com/node/3017 Please read it all. Safe_mode: you need it turned off, case closed. Dave _____________________________________________ Blog & G2 \|\| floridave - Gallery Team

maartenva Joined: 2009-09-09 Posts: 4	Posted: Fri, 2009-09-18 14:58
	I've just spoken with one of support and they tell me that menalto isn't supported by them and that they don't turn of the safe mode. No luck So I guess that I'm looking for an other galllery.

alecmyers Joined: 2006-08-01 Posts: 4338	Posted: Fri, 2009-09-18 16:16
	You'd be about a zillion times better off looking for another host, instead.

nivekiam Joined: 2002-12-10 Posts: 16503	Posted: Fri, 2009-09-18 16:29
	I agree 100%. Someone who's blind and won't re-evaluate the use of safe_mode doesn't know what they are doing. Good luck with the future problems you will undoubtedly have there. ____________________________________________ Like Gallery? Like the support? Donate now!!! See G2 live here

Alpha93 Joined: 2009-09-15 Posts: 5	Posted: Fri, 2009-09-18 17:34
	Thank you for the help. Yes and yes there are alot web host who use safe_mode. But anyway the patched version of gallery2 i use, work perfectly and i will NOT ask your guys for help if it don't work anymore ;-) Everything will maybe be better when new version of php comes. ;)

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