Hosting/Server Requirements
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danbrouwers
Joined: 2009-10-22
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Posted: Thu, 2009-10-22 08:15
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I am very interested in using "Gallery 3 Beta 3" for my future website, but I am not sure if my hosting/server capabilities meets all of the requirements for it. I am currently hosted on a shared Apache/Linux server at 1and1.com and I have already created a PHP v5.2.11 Database. The PHP Safe-Mode is set to off, but that is about all that I understand about this technical stuff. The part I'm not sure about is having "ImageMagick" or NetPBM" and support for "GD" and "GraphicsMagick". Would someone be willing to check my settings at (***url removed from post***) to verify if my server meets all of the requirements please? I would really appreciate it as I am not experienced enough to know what these things are. PS.The "check-info.php" file is the only file uploaded at this time to this domain name. Thank you. |
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I don't think this will be a problem; Graphicsmagick is a stand alone piece of software.
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The installer will point out any issues you might have. Just install and test G3. There is some hosts that have settings that we can't determine, so just try and see.
Dave
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Apache needs to be 2.2 or newer to be supported and there seems to be issues with even getting G3 to run on Apache 1.3
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Thank you mnt_scred.
Thank you floridave and for the PM.
Thank you nivekiam.
I will at least try to install G3 as floridave suggested but I am expecting to need to switch to a different hosting company.
My current 1and1.com Web Host Support Team just informed me that they do not have Apache 2.2 or newer on any of their servers.
That is a shame since I was one of their first 100 customers to take advantage of their Premier Professional Package for only $29.97 every three months (Which they no longer offer).
Now I may have to find a diffrent web host and probably pay much more.....ahh the price of progress.
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There are hundreds if not thousands of hosting companies out there, probably only less than 100 are GOOD in most respects (just my guess). I tried a few (for an unrelated business application) and finally settled on Bluehost.com. Not because they are the best, but because they met most of my needs, and worked with me to satisfy the rest.
And the price was good - $6.95 a month if paying 2 years up front (and a free domain registration).
I am pretty sure thay can meet the minimum requirements for gallery3 - just one possibility out of many.
Martyn T. Griffin
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Not just "the price of progress", but the price of being with a host who has a frickin' clue and is concerned about keeping the software on their servers up to date not only for features, but more importantly security, stability and support.
Apache 1.3 (and 2.0) for all respects are dead or very close to it (bullets have been shot into the body and the gun is pointing at the head right now). The last release for both was in Jan of 2008, 2 years ago. Get with a hosting company capable of keeping their servers up to date and one who cares about support and customer service and you'll be much happier.
More info on obsolete versions of Apache:
http://apache.slashdot.org/story/10/01/12/1359206/Apache-May-Stop-13-20-Series-Releases
http://www.techworld.com.au/article/332190/apache_mulls_end_1_3_2_0_releases
One of the highest quality hosts available does have a plan priced similar to what you are on (but at a much, much higher level of service and quality
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http://www.pairlite.com/hosting/
These guys, by far are one of the highest quality shared hosting companies on the planet. They host huge sites (tomshardware before he was purchased by some media company for example) which are capable of handling digg and slashdot without breaking a sweat. They host space and bandwidth for tons of open source projects and they are know what the hell they are doing.
The main difference I can tell between PairLite and their regular (non-lite) service is that the Lite version has hard limits in place (which very few people ever hit their limit) Their regular version has limits, but your site doesn't stop working if you hit it.
Here's more of my opinion and rhetoric http://gallery.menalto.com/node/88391#comment-310594
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Not to start another flame war... and my apologies in advance if it would sound somewhat harsh...
Someone is taking it too personal... So let's give it a rest, please.
There are hundreds of good hosts around some are bigger some are smaller, with different prices and restrictions. Choice is personal.
1and1 is not an issue here in regard to G3. I am ruining G2/G3/WP successfully without any problems what so ever. I have never heard anything like this related to WordPress and/or WP team screaming so loud about it. Oh, yes, 1and1 is using WP as default Blog Engine and G3 is not there...
Apache 1.3 is not supported here, but it is not an issue. And if we are professionals we said we are, it should not be an issue in near future either.
1and1 has plans to move with Apache as they did in the past with PHP (after PHP 4 passed away) and MySQL...
I would say that if something is good enough for WordPress to run on (and they are also free, have much bigger and diverse user base) it should be good enough for other mainstream products of similar size and targeting similar user base.
Graphics libraries is not an issue (ImageMagick and GD are available). PHP5 is supported, MySQL 5 is supported.
G3 works fine with 1and1 hosting. Issue with 1and1 which was raised in this forum before is not related to G3/Apache but rather to a specific setup of the environment which G3 installation procedure cannot detect and properly inform about.
Git and last beta installed fine with any 1and1 packages if done correctly in the first place.
Personally I am amazed by the situation... If G3 team would make changes which would require me to change provider, I will stay with G2 and/or move to another Gallery software.
Yet, despite some hiccups on the way G3 team has a great product with great potential. Everybody here do appreciate their effort in supporting this OS project.
I checked this page http://gallery.menalto.com/wiki/Web_Hosting_Referral_Page and it is amusing. Why on Earth I would move my domain to some unknown company for 15$ when I can have domain for free or for as little as 10$
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My original post is now a couple months old and I thought this subject was dead.
I am still a 1and1.com customer and will not change.
The more I learn about the "technical stuff", the more I appreciate 1and1.com .
I have come to realize that it is my job to know how to use them.
1and1.com hosting is a terrific product and they have actually taken the time to occassionally educate this newbie.
Menalto Gallery is also a terrific product and I have never seen a more helpful and friendly forum.
I appreciate all the great input from everyone, thanks!
I'm now moving onto other forum topics.
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Serge D and danbrouwers,
We are glad that you have G3 working on a host that does meet our requirements.
In the future we will point all 1&1 users to you for support since you have had success with them and perhaps you can contribute to the community by offering support to them for them.
Dave
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While it is possible
it may be useful to move any hosting related discussion into different forum (?installation?) from where it can be then transformed into wiki articles.
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I like it, sounds great!
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Dears; Hi to all
Can you advice me what the basic requirements to deploy a web application in a server runs unix or linux OS
M.Khalid