SOS: Need file folders for albums to provide to Google Images Safe Search
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OC2PS
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Posted: Thu, 2010-09-09 12:36
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Google has indexed many of my images via Gallery and elsewhere. However, when Image Search is run, they don't show up. Apparently, Google feels, for whatever reason, that my images don't belong in Google Images - Safe Search...so these don't show up unless the searcher turns off his/her Safe Search option. I have identified certain albums that *could* be inappropriate for some of the audience and have provided Google a list of these albums. Unfortunately, Google requires actual folders for the actual files so that they can put these in the *unsafe* category and mark the rest of my site as SAFE. http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?hl=en&tid=65a31945a70e73b8&start=520 Now, I have found the folders where these files are stored However, these folders or the files in them are not accessible by pointing my URL box to the correct address!! I get the error message Directory has no index file. So, if someone can suggest how I can provide the correct folders for these albums to Google, I'd (hopefully) be able to have my images listed back in Google Image search. Please help! SoosKriszta |
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Please don't post the same question multiple times. I saw your question before, but don't really have an answer for you. Although, I guess this is getting you an answer because I didn't look at this again and think about the problem a bit more.
The images at:
csillamvilag.com/galeria_images/albums/
shouldn't be getting crawled to begin with. For Gallery2, your g2data directory should never be web accessible. Also there are no direct links (or shouldn't be) to that directory so it wouldn't get crawled.
In G2, your images go through an "image firewall", so a URL to say a specific thumbnail would look like this:
csillamvilag.com/galeria/galeria/d/1092-2/Verseny.jpg
Granted every time you rebuild your thumbs and resizes, that will or could change.
o.k. So as I read this multiple times and read just that specific page of that huge thread you linked to it sounds like you're needing to allow google to browse those directories. If that /galeria_images/ directory is in fact your g2data directory, that is HUGELY bad advice for Gallery2.
The other problem I see is that those URLs to those "unsafe" images will not match the URLs to the "unsafe" images that Gallery is giving out. So you either run the risk of all this work either not working, or getting flagged as having unsafe images again.
Here's some really bad advice:
You could try putting an .htaccess file in your /galeria_images/albums directory or just in those individual directories to nail it down even further that can try turning directory browsing on.
Put this in the .htaccess file
Options +IndexesYou should really investigate looking at migrating to G3. The directory that stores the images in G3 is and has to be web accessible because the architecture has changed from G2 and the "image firewall" is no more in G3. However, with your host you'd still be having the problem of no directory browsing.
But once you enable directory browsing, then in G3 the URLs for the images will match what Gallery is serving up too.
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Sorry about the double post. After posting the first one as a response to a very old and somewhat unrelated query in General Discussion, I felt that maybe this board would be more appropriate for my question.
Here's the exact detail of what happened:
http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Webmasters/thread?hl=en&tid=65a31945a70e73b8&start=469
Seems like that. Based on the above discussion with Google, if you have other suggestions, I'm happy to try them out too....in fact would highly appreciate them...
What stage is G3 at? Is it still a release candidate or has a stable version been released? Also, can I easily upgrade from G2 to G3?
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I see one real option with G2. Don't use G2 for google to crawl those images. Manually create a static HTML page pointing to direct images to show case your stuff that's safe.
O.k. option 2 would be to make sure that no questionable image can be accessed by anyone just browsing your gallery and they have to have a login, that should make Google think the site is safe.
G3 is currently in RC, but a stable 3.0 release should be out soon:
http://gallery.menalto.com/gallery_3_0_is_almost_ready
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Neither option is particularly palatable
For 10s of 1000s of images, obviously this is tedious. Besides the gallery is a living beast....new images keep getting added all the time...manual is not practical.
Again, I want people to be able to view the images without logging in...it's a public site...a specific interest one....
Is there an better option?
e.g. Putting a robots.txt in some folders to prevent Google from browsing them, or
Checking a flag somewhere so that some albums are not included in the sitemap,
etc?
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robots.txt can only be put at and read from the root of your site. Those folders are not getting crawled because nothing except for a few posts you've posted on the internet links to them directly. Nothing in Gallery2 will ever link directly to your g2data/albums directory.
G3 is the only potential option I see where the URLs for the images are a direct link to the actual image, so you could exclude directories. In G2, the URLs for the images are never a direct link to the actual image sitting on the file system, so you can exclude directories all you want, but Google will have never crawled those directories anyway and will probably continue to see the rest of your site as unsafe because Gallery2 will continue to dish those "unsafe" images up to guests (including Google).
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"Upgrading" seems the best course of action, as per your advice. I'll do that as soon as a new version is available.
I put upgrading in quotes as based on what I have read around the forums, one can't really upgrade from G2 to G3 - rather it's a matter of migrating from G2 to G3...I just hope that the import tool works well...
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G3 is really close to final release. You can have G2 and G3 running side by side. I'd suggest installing G3 into a different directory and testing to start with. If there's a major problem importing your stuff, now is the time. There is a lot of functionality in G2 that isn't in G3 and I don't know if you use that in G2 or not.
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