Polar Rose
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kinchyle
Joined: 2009-03-08
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Posted: Sun, 2009-03-08 22:42
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How does the Polar rose functionality work ? |
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kinchyle
Joined: 2009-03-08
Posts: 11 |
Posted: Sun, 2009-03-08 22:42
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How does the Polar rose functionality work ? |
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Posts: 7994
You can read a lot about it on their website. Basically, it reads the RSS feed, finds images, does facial recognition on them, then gives you a dashboard at the bottom of the page where you can tag faces. Then it draws overlays on the images (like Facebook does) around the faces with their names. Pretty cool stuff
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How does the polar rose stuff work though? Do the images get sent to the polar rose website, or is the code run on the local site.
With the legal implications of images on Facebook recently, where they tried to claim that any photo uploaded immediately became their property forever, I am concerned about images I have taken, which are on my website, being sent to 3rd parties.
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The Polar Rose code pulls images from your G3 onto their site and does the facial recognition there, then makes the results of that available to you. They definitely have the potential to make a permanent copy of your image (though anybody else can too). If this is important to you, I strongly suggest that you read the terms and conditions when you sign up for an account on their site. If you think that this will be a problem then please escalate it here and I'll get the Polar Rose folks to show up here and engage on it.
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My gallery site is non-public, and is password protected. Although it is not a problem should the images escape, it is not something that I want to sign up to.
One problem is that the Terms of Service do not have a version number, so there is no way that it can be said that a particular user did not sign up and agree to terms and conditions which may have been changed at a later date (but without their knowledge).
Also, I am not comfortable with the following clause (Terms of Service 5.3),
Polar Rose does not claim ownership of content you submit or make available for inclusion in the Service. You own any data you post, but by posting Content to any public area of Polar Rose, you automatically grant, and you represent and warrant that you have the right to grant, to Polar Rose anon-exclusive, fully paid, worldwide license to use, copy, perform, display, and distribute such information and content and to prepare derivative works of, or incorporate into other works, such information and content, and to grant and authorize sublicenses of the foregoing
When taken into acount, clause 2,
Even after your use of the Service is terminated, this Agreement will remain in effect.
Basically, by putting a picture onto the polar rose system, it would appear that you are giving a non-ending right for polar rose to use the picture for their own needs.
It is a pity, it seems like a good idea on the face of things (no pun intended)
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So, back to "How does it work?" I think I have added the module from the contrib location correctly (it shows up in the list of installed modules). Now what would I do to pull the pictures into Photo Rose? When I access my Photo Rose account, it only shows flickr and 23 and import sources. And I don't see any configuration setting for the module in the Admin page.
I've played around with this concept in the Picasa web albums, and was hoping to look at it using my actual gallery.
Tim Musa
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Make sure you have the RSS module turned on. the polar rose module will automatically pull new pictures in from that. You should also see a dashboard at the bottom of your album and photo pages belonging from polar rose -- this will tell you how many people you have assigned names to, etc.
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Ahh, you know, I never noticed that at the bottom of my albums. Yep, says that it is processing. Now to wait for it to finish.
Tim Musa
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I too wait for it to finish.... and wait... for it to finish....
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I've gotten a few smaller albums to finish, so this looks to work pretty well. Just a bit slow. Especially for larger albums.
Tim Musa
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Hello,
Does anyone know how to get the facebook part of polar rose to integrate with the pictures that are on the gallery? Its cool what the plugin does, but if it integrated into facebook you can actually tag facebook people in your gallery albums and automatically have a note on their wall written. That would be cool. Is there a place where this plugin is discussed and where updates to it will be posted?
Thanks P
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I've been searching for information regarding any options for face recognition in Gallery 3, and I've seen a few hints that it was in an alpha and another thread mentions that it was moved out to a module, but I can't find the module or any other threads regarding its current status.
Is the module still available? Will it work with protected albums?
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The polar_rose module is in the -contrib branch:
http://github.com/gallery/gallery3-contrib/tree/master/modules/
I don't know how it works or if it'll work on protected albums.
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Of course, I found it moments after posting saying I couldn't find it.
It looks like the module pushes out an Album RSS URL to their API that then runs through the pictures in the feed and does its detection.
So I imagine that won't work if their API can't access the RSS URL because it is protected.
I couldn't find any information about their API on their site so I don't know if it supports any sort of authentication passthru.
Ah well. looks like auto tagging pictures with names is not quite there yet for my use of Gallery.
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So once the faces are found by polar rose (and then presumably named there though the process is slow) how do we get the face descriptions back into gallery so people can see the highlighted face tags (like the facetags module) when browsing the gallery? I understand the links go back to polar rose for now (or at least that's how they set it up) but ideally it would all stay in the gallery.
In general, while face recognition in picasa, iphoto and polar rose is still very far from ideal, it's quite neat and useful. I don't expect gallery to have direct face recognition in it in the near future, cool as that might be, but it does seem that importing from other tools could be very useful. Though one thing gallery does that other tools don't do is let multiple users collaborate on doing everything -- editing, tagging, face tagging -- on a bunch of photos.
Importing from picasa requires understanding their proprietary .ini files, which have pointers into their own database of contacts. However, a lot could still be gained if you just imported the face coordinates from picasa and the fact that they all point to an un-named ID code. Then it's usually not too hard to re-enter names for those IDs by looking at the faces. I hate duplicating but you don't usually define more than a few score faces in these face recognition systems today because they become unwieldy. They don't have hierarchies of faces etc.
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This is an interesting concept, but I to would like to know if there is a way to take all the tags and import them back into G3 for other users to view and have it fully integrated
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I haven't talked to the Polar Rose folks in a while so I don't know if they're willing to send the data back.
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