What I want to do and what host do I need?
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NCCaptainMorgan
Joined: 2013-10-28
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Posted: Tue, 2013-10-29 00:27
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Hello everyone! I am currently a photographer for a sports team. I have a Gallery3 Gallery on BlueHost. I went with Bluehost at the time because of the cost, but I just got my one year renewal notice and the price is crazy. I upload a lot of pictures and videos to the Gallery. BlueHost does not support ffmpeg so to post videos right now I have to upload a frame of the video as a picture. Then using a redirect I redirect them to a webpage that has a private youtube link embedded. This is a pain because I have to do way too much work to get a video into my gallery. I would like to be able to upload a video and then it can be viewed from multiple devices and the video adjusted to bandwidth of the device. Like YouTube will do. I have some people logging in on a computer and most people logging in with an iphone. Does ffmpeg on Gallery3 do this? I would really like a cross platform friendly gallery. I have seen some iphone plugins for Gallery3 that look like they make it a lot easier to view albums on the iphone, and I will probably install one of those, but I really need be able for people to see the videos on their iphone, android and computer. Also what host should I go with? I have seen the InMotion Hosting thing on the Gallery3 page, but i do not know if it will do what I want it to do. Thank you for any information that you can give me. i came here with my questions, because it is always best to go to the source! |
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I'm skipping the video question(s) because I don't know that Gallery can do that by default; as far as I know, you'd need to custom code a solution if you intend to serve different video source based on the bandwidth of the viewer. Having said that, if the videos are on YouTube, you can likely just embed them without having to host them yourself.
http://codex.galleryproject.org/Gallery3:Modules:embed_videos
As for the host you should go with, no way to tell from what you've stated thus far. Prices are relative and I don't know at what point you'll think it's "crazy." Were there server resources issues that you are looking to address? Or was everything okay except the price point? How many users do you get to the site and how much bandwidth do they collectively use? Etc, etc.
Also:
http://galleryproject.org/node/88391
http://galleryproject.org/node/93501
http://galleryproject.org/node/100536
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Thank you for your reply.
As far as my host needs go:
I will only have about 50 max users.
The website is used so that certain people can look at pictures and then if they want to use them for ads, or anything else, they download the full sized image.
I also have the videos.
I have thousands upon thousands of pictures and will eventually have hundreds of videos. The small amount of users will not require crazy amounts of bandwidth.
I do require a lot of storage. Right now I have used about 27Gigs and growing. I can see this going into the TB range within a year.
Users can download full sized uncompressed HD video, but most do not. They mostly want to stream.
After games there will be peaks in activity from me uploading hundreds of pictures and up to two 300MB videos.
Then people will be looking at the gallery and downloading pics here and there. Nothing too crazy.
I would like to use the price that InMotion Hosting is advertising (5.99 a month) or what some of the others are advertising a little lower. Where Blue host got me is my renewal bill is as follows:
+ 18 Dec 2013 - 1.00 Year Domain Name Registration @ $14.99/year
+ 18 Dec 2013 - 1.00 Year Domain Privacy Protection @ $10.99/year
+ 18 Dec 2013 - 12.00 Months Web Hosting @ $119.88/12 month
So $145.86 a year for a website that can not even handle ffmpeg or video that well at all. Would like to pay for web hosting not a domain every year and what not.
Thanks
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If you want to have a website, you'll have to pay for a domain name each year--or you can pay for several years in advance. (You can technically just have an ip address if you want--meaning no domain name required, but users would have to type some number to get to your site, e.g. 123.123.23.123) $14.99 is about average right now, but you can probably get that down to about $9.00/yr with some registrars. (Most shared hosting packages--and some other hosting packages--include the domain at no additional cost if you pay for a year of hosting.)
You can drop the privacy as long as you don't mind having your registration info (name, address, phone) appear in whois databases.
The hosting package isn't terribly out of line, price-wise. (I've never used Bluehost, so can't speak to whether or not it's worth it.)
The challenge you have is that (from what I can tell so far) you basically don't use the site much, but when you do use it, you use a lot of it. You basically have to figure out how much that's worth to you. On top of that, going from 27GB to 1TB in a year is crazy rapid growth; if whatever you're doing is really worth using that kind of storage, you're eventually going to need to fork over more money to efficiently host it all.
Moving forward, if you keep developing whatever this is, you're going to end up moving to a vps, then a dedicated server. On a vps, you're going to pay much more than $12/month for the amount of harddrive space you need, but you'll probably be okay until more people start downloading (at which point you'll be forced to move to a dedicated server). Shared hosting plans (InMotion included) are NOT meant for what you're looking to do. (You could also use third-party cloud storage to actually host the videos; Gallery3 has a module for doing that.)
Having said that, $5.99/month is obviously less than $119.88/yr. But, again, at some point no shared hosting will work for you and you'll pay much more than either of these two.
EDIT: (1) You could maybe keep doing the photos the way you're doing them, but uploading smaller videos to reduce storage needs: streaming would be the same as it's working now, but they'd use a different link (or contact you) for the uncompressed HD versions. (2) Are you backing this stuff up? I imagine it' be a real pain, but the larger the site, the more important the backups (of the site itself AND of the database that the site uses).
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I do have a backup of everything. The website is just so that people can get what they need. Currently my backup (at home) is in the 15TB range. Oh the hardware requirements for pro video. The number of users will not go up, only the amount of stuff on the website. The bandwidth should not go up, just the amount of stuff that I am storing on the website. I was hoping i could getaway with using a cheap solution because of the whole unlimited storage unlimited bandwidth stuff they always advertise. I wonder how much I can store on the server before they tell me that their unlimited is not really unlimited.
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That and all the other similar questions are are not for the gallery community to answer it is a hosting question. What if we say go with host xxx and later you find that 15.1 TB is $400 more?
In general you get what you pay for.
I echo the 3 threads tempg suggested.
Dave
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