Gallery 2 sucks, too many files and folders

fjulll

Joined: 2005-12-03
Posts: 7
Posted: Sat, 2005-12-03 23:37

I tried to install it, Ive only got webspace not a server so I had to download all 3490 files via FTP, which took ages. Then when I had uploaded it it didnt work, when I tried to do something firefox asked if I wanted to download main.php. Then I want to delete it, but that will also took ages, because for some reason Gallery2 features alot, alot of folders. For example, in g2data/locks/ there are 9 folders named 1-9, then inside those folders are there also 9 other folders name 1-9, all folders are empty. 81 useless folders.....

Gallery2 should consist of less folders and files....

 
globo
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Joined: 2005-02-07
Posts: 37
Posted: Sun, 2005-12-04 14:50

The structure of Gayller2 was one of the reasons why I choose it. Depending on your webspace you might be able to upload the .zip and then decompress it on your server. That will save you a lot of time.

globo

 
fjulll

Joined: 2005-12-03
Posts: 7
Posted: Sun, 2005-12-04 16:14

I cant, i tried but I couldnt.

 
Colt45

Joined: 2005-07-09
Posts: 48
Posted: Sun, 2005-12-04 23:08

Compatible hosting is available for $5 or less per month.
Why use 'webspace'?

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valiant

Joined: 2003-01-04
Posts: 32509
Posted: Mon, 2005-12-05 00:05

first, don't expect constructive answers when you enter the gallery website and say gallery 2 sucks.

second, the files and dirs in g2data/ are not part of your ftp upload, they are generated during installation. and there's a reason for the 0-9/0-9/ structure. but i won't go into it. it's an architectural choice and it's proven to be good.

third, g2 has a lot of dirs and files.
g 2.1 will be considerably smaller in size, faster and you'll be able to download only the core module and all other modules can be downloaded directly to g2 and installed from the web with a few clicks.

 
fjulll

Joined: 2005-12-03
Posts: 7
Posted: Tue, 2005-12-06 05:36

Well, thats good valiant.

Colt45: I dont wanna pay and i get 1 gb of free space including unlimited mysql databases, emails etc. from a guy I know. It is about what you get from a normal hosting company and I dont see a reason why gallery should have a requirement that you own a server that you can SSL/Telenet. Most hosting companies wont help you if you ask them to unzip a file anyway.

 
Dayo

Joined: 2005-11-04
Posts: 1642
Posted: Tue, 2005-12-06 06:13

fjulll - last time I checked, there wasn't anyone holding a gun to your head forcing you to use Gallery. In fact, the damn thing is free with a lot of hard work having gone into it. So why don't you try going to pay for something else that doesn't suck instead?

 
scaturan
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Joined: 2004-09-12
Posts: 1153
Posted: Tue, 2005-12-06 06:48

lots of hosting companies don't have a clue as to how Gallery works. for most, hosting regardless of what platform a customer installs "is all about business and revenue" and if you can't get it to work, "well, it's too bad, it's "just another" script..." screw that. where's the customer satisfaction and fitness for use, "eh"?

if they would just go an extra mile, beyond the "well, it's a problem with the script...", beyond "one-click installs", or those control panel type of thingies that automate stuff, it would become much more rewarding to company itself and reputation, an advantage over their competitors. if it's an issue, deploy a dedicated box or two and configure it where tight security & Gallery can coexist, not 100% of it's featuers but enough to generate added revenue specific to Gallery users.

technical support associates should at least become familiar the platform and how it works, setup structure & requirements, the basic stuff to get it to work. they don't have to be experienced like "valiant", but at least provide reasonable support, not the "jack of all trades wannabes" who spit out 2 line responses to support tickets. bring it up a notch. and if money is good, give back to the project. just my 2 cents.

 
Colt45

Joined: 2005-07-09
Posts: 48
Posted: Wed, 2005-12-07 23:56
fjulll wrote:
Colt45: I dont wanna pay and i get 1 gb of free space including unlimited mysql databases, emails etc. from a guy I know.

OK, perhaps I misunderstood the term 'webspace' which you used.

fjulll wrote:
It is about what you get from a normal hosting company and I dont see a reason why gallery should have a requirement that you own a server that you can SSL/Telenet. Most hosting companies wont help you if you ask them to unzip a file anyway.

Yes, I agree, it is a chore to upload all those files if you don't have a means to install via tarball. Fortunate for me that I chose a hosting company that is service oriented. They even recently added a utility to extract compressed files.

 
parki

Joined: 2005-12-06
Posts: 18
Posted: Thu, 2005-12-08 02:23

When Firefox (or IE) asks if you want to download main.php, usually this means that PHP isn't installed on the webserver.
Without PHP it is impossible to get Gallery to work (and for that matter, most of the other image gallery scripts out there).

 
fryfrog

Joined: 2002-10-30
Posts: 3236
Posted: Fri, 2005-12-09 18:30

If a simple php script you might name "test.php" with something like "<?php phpinfo(); ?>" works, php is good. If a script with something like "<?php echo exec('tar zxvf name-of-g2.tar.gz'); ?>" doesn't work due to a "cannot exec" or something like that, you probably won't have much luck with G2 either.

The number of files in G2 does suck though :)
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He11Fire

Joined: 2005-12-19
Posts: 5
Posted: Mon, 2005-12-19 04:04

gallery 2 is great dude

 
akbigdog

Joined: 2005-08-31
Posts: 23
Posted: Wed, 2005-12-21 21:32

If there were a virtual stoning, you would be virtually dead for suggesting here that "Gallery 2 sucks." Simply because you cannot get G2 to work does not mean that "it sucks"; it means that you don't know what you're doing. If you've used ANY other gallery scripts out there, you'll know that Gallery2 is a top-of-the-line, even professional grade, online photo gallery application. Its developers have spent thousands of hours developing it, and if you had any respect for that, you would not have said what you did. And because you said it, you've lessened the chance that anyone here will want to help you. You don't deserve Gallery.

And get a new host, one that allows shell access. Try Gallery's certified Web hosts page.

Once you have that, two simple commands will grab Gallery and unzip it to your Web space:
wget http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/gallery/gallery-2.0.2-typical.zip
and
unzip gallery-2.0.2-typical.zip

 
ArcAiN6

Joined: 2005-09-02
Posts: 24
Posted: Thu, 2005-12-22 15:39

lol... typical, someone not smart enough to read the requirements, nor the manual automaticly says it sucks... RTFM!!

 
fjulll

Joined: 2005-12-03
Posts: 7
Posted: Tue, 2006-01-10 05:39

Park and fryfog most be the most stupid people ever. Of course PHP installed, im not that stupid. I even wrote before that I got unlimited MySql databases, if I got that, why wouldnt I have PHP?

I know my post wasnt very well discussed or argumented, but yours beat me in stupidness dude! (He11Fire)

 
justinr

Joined: 2006-01-10
Posts: 1
Posted: Tue, 2006-01-10 23:38

I was doing a blog post on my personal website about how computer users these days are idiots. I did a random search for "sucks can't get it to work" in Google and your bright idea of a post was the very first hit. Congrats - you just made it onto my blog.

Now, I'm a Gallery user, so I'll answer your question, but first - put up with some of your own medicine.

Why in the world you attack people that are attempting to help you? 1, your grammar just plain sucks. This tells me you need to pay more attention in school - odd how I can tell you're still in school eh? 2, "stupidness" is barely a word for civilized people. It reminds me of a first grader. What, around 9th grade are we? 3, MySQL is a database, it has absolutely NOTHING to do with PHP. Nothing, nada, zip - zero. Your smart comment just made you look like a fool in front of the whole world that wants to search on something randomly like I did. You do realize that more than PHP can connect to MySQL right? This kind of a comment is the type that tells me you're a wannabe that throws computer jargon around to impress everyone but you just can't cut it in the real world. If you want to throw jargon like this around, you need to setup your own web server and spend weeks of frustration to get a feel of how it is in the real world.

Now, to fix your problem, I'm going to give you some homework instead of me telling you how to fix it. After all, I found your post while complaining how lazy modern day computer users are and you appear to have too much time away from school as it is...

There are 3 issues that it could be. I'm personally leaning towards one more than the other two, but you have to learn the hard way. For me, this would be a 20 second check and I would probably have it fixed.

First, how did you upload your files? Simple question and before you come back with "I SAID I FTP'd it stupid!" you need to learn how FTP works, a file is not a file unless its the right type of file – that’s your only hint on the first possible problem. Or wait; is there a door number 2? I really hope you didn't use something like FrontPage because that would be....stupid. I won’t even begin to tell you why.

The next option is something really simple. So simple, you couldn't mess it up unless you have an FTP issue. Learn how the php info function works. (note: I didn't put it in the proper format for a reason). This will tell you exactly what your "webspace" can do, in terms of PHP. If it works, go to step 3.

Step 3 is something some people refer to as Voodoo because it’s more of an art than a science. I would suggest that you start to understand the inner workings of Apache. Just to be on the nice side, since your inept head can't handle how to do research on your own, I'll give you two hints for this side of things since we don't need you actually learning how everything in Apache would work - that could take months. Mime types & htaccess

There, I've done it. I've made it simple enough for you to LEARN how to fix it yourself. Be thankful that people are attempting to help you, "stupid". In the past, you would have been ignored leaving you to either give up on the FREE software you downloaded or you would have spent weeks figuring it out yourself.

And no, I won’t post my Blog here so you can cry about this on my website. You are a leech and I don’t need you trying to suck onto my knowledge.

To everyone else that tried to help this person, you have my appreciation. The web wouldn't be what it is without folks like you.

 
yojimbo71

Joined: 2005-12-19
Posts: 6
Posted: Sat, 2006-01-14 08:06

I have been a long time user of Gallery v1, and in my opinion it was the best freeware program I have ever used. I liked it so much that right after first using it I donated. I upgraded to Gallery v2 and I really am not happy with the product.

Anyone have any tips on downgrading back to v1.?

 
scaturan
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Joined: 2004-09-12
Posts: 1153
Posted: Sat, 2006-01-14 08:34
yojimbo71 wrote:
I have been a long time user of Gallery v1, and in my opinion it was the best freeware program I have ever used. I liked it so much that right after first using it I donated. I upgraded to Gallery v2 and I really am not happy with the product.

Anyone have any tips on downgrading back to v1.?

exactly what are your impressions of Gallery 2? afaik, there is no direct Gallery 1 -> 2 upgrade, you have to migrate your existing G1 albums into G2 that's it. and why did you delete your G1 install after importing your albums into G2 the first time around?

 
valiant

Joined: 2003-01-04
Posts: 32509
Posted: Sat, 2006-01-14 12:36

yojimbo71

what exactly do you don't like about Gallery 2?

 
igrcic
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Joined: 2005-04-19
Posts: 78
Posted: Fri, 2006-01-20 15:42

justinr i gotta disappoint you, "sucks can't get it to work" is not nr.1 in Google anymore :(

hahaha....man that was a good one :D
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yojimbo71

Joined: 2005-12-19
Posts: 6
Posted: Mon, 2006-01-23 01:58

It was an upgrade option in cpanel fantastico. I had saved all of my pictures in a backup file, so I did not lose any of my pics. What I am finding difficult about v2 is that is harder to customize than the previous gallery. There is just too much "junk" to sort through to get it to do what I want. I am approaching this from a design standpoint and not a technical standpoint.

Right now I have been fooling around with it for the better part of an hour just trying to change the default display font style, size and color and remove the gallery image logo from the top left of the screen. Right now I am using the Matrix theme.

I don't agree that Gallery sucks, but from ease of use and design the original more than exceeded my expectations and could be easily customized. This version has lots of "cool" bells and whistles, but just seems bogged down with them.

 
yojimbo71

Joined: 2005-12-19
Posts: 6
Posted: Mon, 2006-01-23 02:06

BTW, can anyone point me in the right direction of how to change the font and remove the gallery image in the Matrix theme?

 
valiant

Joined: 2003-01-04
Posts: 32509
Posted: Mon, 2006-01-23 03:05

i don't think it's harder to customize g2 than to customize g1.
the problem is that it isn't documented yet. basically, we're throwing a product at you without a manual and without a guide on how to customize it.
- we're working now with a docs expert to organize our codex.gallery2.org. as soon as it's organized, we're putting more and more content in it.
- we're working on better theme docs
besides: in g2 you can customize to a much higher degree. and not only the look.

customizing the look is basically done with css. just edit the theme.css file, to change e.g. the font color, size, etc. etc.